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 +Discussed at [[connections-20080112]]
 +  * [[Stafford Beer]] and [[Ross Ashby]] were both in Britain. ​ They not only got together at conferences,​ but got together for lunch for long lunches.
 +  * [Stafford Beer]] was interested in Variety as the common measure of everything.
 +  * When [[Stafford Beer]] was in United Steel, brought everyone from experts on snakes to theologians ... included [[Ross Ashby]] and [[Warren McCullough]]
 +  * Stafford was a socialist, and not happy that the productivity improvements would bring effort to the company down to 1/3, but the end result to the workers was barely enough to buy a pack of cigarettes.